Sunday, April 12, 2015
Some Days You Get The Bear!
When it comes to the squabbles in Indiana a few weeks ago, I had the simultaneous pleasure of being away from the computer and being able to listen to hours and hours of talk radio in my car. Listening to the "debate" really juiced up my critical thinking faculties as I interpreted, accepted, and rejected different aspects of different opinions.What was most interesting was to see how ill informed many speakers were, especially when confronted with the specific facts of the case in hand. Not infrequently they had to relent, but without seeming to being seen to do so.
But to the matter. The question really seems hinge on one difference of opinion - the question of the nature of homosexuality. If you imagine that being gay is a lifestyle choice, then pitting that choice against the equally valid choice of religious belief seems only fair. But if you feel that being gay is an intrinsic genetic trait which individuals are born with with no regard to their whims or fancies, then the creation of any legal mechanism which allows for folks of that ilk to be denied legal access to publicly available facilities smacks you as akin to the same complaint that we find with regard to race. And that is long decided as unacceptable.
So there's the rub.
A vendor cannot forbid me access to their services if I'm too tall, too short (unless you operate a carnival ride that is), too dark, too European, too Islamic (a choice but an equally protected one), too Christian (see Islam), or as in the case here sexual attraction.
The Indiana law made that possible. If it had not done so, then the governor of Indiana would have been able to plainly say so, and no alteration to the law would have been needed. That the desperate pols in that state were pressured into making their decision by the force of the marketplace doesn't speak to the question of what they did, only motivation. If nothing could be done but repeal the law, they might have done so, but they "fixed" it and in so doing admitted it was flawed, and intentionally so in my opinion despite protests to the contrary. They weren't enlightened, they were caught out.
So there's little to debate here. We believe what we believe. If the public (come as we are in all our many guises) is going to be fairly served by a variety of public businesses without undue discrimination then we have to make it plain that they must be served uniformly. But if you think that being gay is a choice like buying detergent or selecting a news source, then you can never be convinced that homosexuals can ever qualify for that protection.
But then you'd be wrong.
But that's your choice.
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Here, here. I cant imagine what it must be like living in Indiana.
ReplyDeleteI thought a lot about that and didnt see much about it in the news.
I think this whole thing will unfortunately have a longer term effect. Liberals, Democrats, Gays, ect will all be less likely to move, or even visit Indiana. Which is a darn shame because I know there are great people like yourself there but your elected officials ruined your reputation.
For the record I live in Kentucky, a neighboring state which much to its chagrin has a law like this already on the books. My state also forbids gay marriage, and our governor recently made an enormously stupid statement on that subject saying that gays were not forbidden to marry as long as they chose the opposite sex. Sheesh! I respect this guy in some ways, but that was a stupid damn thing to say.
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I must have misread your post but my point still remains there are great people in every state. There are no red states or blue states because lots of states have a nearly 50/50 split at elections.
DeleteReligious fundamentalists insist that being gay is a "lifestyle choice" but they never say the same about religion - you can choose any religion you want or none so it's clearly a lifestyle choice.
ReplyDeleteThat's the distinction as far as I can see. Sin is a choice and being gay is a sin in the eyes of many still. It wasn't long ago that marrying outside your race was considered a sin around these parts.
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