tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8220285230636101823.post1707484726374637122..comments2024-03-28T09:04:42.135-04:00Comments on Rip Jagger's Dojo: Jack Goes Wild!Rip Jaggerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09936426877024852134noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8220285230636101823.post-3304191138447471232021-07-06T14:41:18.046-04:002021-07-06T14:41:18.046-04:00I tried to review my comment and only part of it w...I tried to review my comment and only part of it was showing, so you might've received only a partial comment, RJ.Kidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07224781868125924337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8220285230636101823.post-17044075383733573372021-07-06T14:40:22.720-04:002021-07-06T14:40:22.720-04:00Well, of course he did more than draw pretty pictu...Well, of course he did more than draw pretty pictures, RJ, but he didn't always best serve his stories with the way he scripted them when he did it himself. Lee's contribution (and even Mark Evanier concedes that Lee contributed some ideas himself) had such a seemingly disproportionately positive effect on the finished result that, to me, reading a Kirby-scripted comic and one done by Lee are poles apart when it comes to the enjoyment factor. Ideas are easy, it's what's done with them that counts. Jack by himself was great (most of the time), but with Lee, he was even greater.<br /><br />As for the 's', I think the logo was taken from somewhere else, and the 's' was just put on the wrong way when it was all being pasted down. According to Mark Evanier, if I remember the story correctly. Kidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07224781868125924337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8220285230636101823.post-2317136620162090912021-07-06T14:10:33.946-04:002021-07-06T14:10:33.946-04:00If any comics artist/storyteller deserves the high...If any comics artist/storyteller deserves the highest praise, it's Jack Kirby. I do love what Stan Lee brought to books like Fantastic Four & Thor, and would never downplay it. But unadulterated Kirby has a powerful & primal magic, even with its dialogue -- which, in the case of both New Gods & Eternals, I consider as being operatic, rather than the realistic dialogue that other comics used. (And just how realistic was that realism anyway?)Tim Lukemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08798981858460277850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8220285230636101823.post-35305745961229096292021-07-06T08:35:49.361-04:002021-07-06T08:35:49.361-04:00While "The King" made outstanding and dy...While "The King" made outstanding and dynamic posters shots, I think you do Kirby a bit of a disservice by calling his stuff just "pretty pictures". In fact it was his storytelling aided and abetted by Lee's loquaciousness that was the bedrock of Marvel's early success. Kirby was regarded by the mavens at DC as a rugged talent who drew too ugly to be a part of DC's elite roster of fine artists.<br /><br />It's likely just a mistake, but I wondered looking at it again if the change in the "shadow" on the "s" was intended to draw the eye to the Human Torch who is coming down on it as some sort of contrast. Probably overthinking that one. Rip Jaggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09936426877024852134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8220285230636101823.post-10972031436529154292021-07-06T06:24:15.799-04:002021-07-06T06:24:15.799-04:00When it comes to Marvel imagery, Jack was indeed t...When it comes to Marvel imagery, Jack was indeed the artist responsible, but Marvel wasn't just about 'pin-ups'. Without Stan's contribution, I doubt that Marvel would've been the force it became. Comics are for reading, not just for looking at pretty pictures, so thank goodness these two joined forces for the time (at the time) they did. Incidentally, the 's' in the Fantastic Four poster is upside down - the 'shadow' is on the opposite side compared to the rest of the letters. Kidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07224781868125924337noreply@blogger.com