tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8220285230636101823.post7259800248582524211..comments2024-03-28T07:29:09.699-04:00Comments on Rip Jagger's Dojo: Death Be Not Proud!Rip Jaggerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09936426877024852134noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8220285230636101823.post-72741184934063037652013-05-29T09:53:50.125-04:002013-05-29T09:53:50.125-04:00Matt, it wouldn't be fair to Rip to carry this...Matt, it wouldn't be fair to Rip to carry this any further on his blog. We can agree to disagree on many things. I am glad you've found a new home, and appreciate your past contributions to the conversations at the Bronze Age Babies. Best to you.<br /><br />DougDoughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04248324005584963229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8220285230636101823.post-68289230490185122362013-05-29T09:40:04.863-04:002013-05-29T09:40:04.863-04:00You're so condescending, Doug. What you wrote ...You're so condescending, Doug. What you wrote was a gratuitous insult to Don Heck no matter how you want to defend it after the fact. There was no context as to why Don Heck needed to be called "rapidly declining." <br /><br /> "I wish JB had finished it as I prefer his artwork to DH's" is stating your opinion without putting down DH. Or what you wrote above in your attempt to back-pedal on your tossed-off insult.<br /><br />When someone writes something like that on your blog you call it a drive-by an'd complain that it's unsupported and that as an educator you hate when your students do that in their writing.Doc Savagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08783244633195233970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8220285230636101823.post-76675960394577382222013-05-28T10:15:21.590-04:002013-05-28T10:15:21.590-04:00Well, Matt, since it wasn't a "slam"...Well, Matt, since it wasn't a "slam", I'm not sure I should even dignify this with a response. It was more of an "observation" based on my personal opinion of Don Heck's output over several years. Heck's best years, <i>in my opinion</i>, were behind him by the time the late 1960's rolled around. I have gone on record numerous times stating that I find his early Avengers work, mostly from the Kooky Quartet era, to be among the finest art in the long history of Earth's Mightiest Heroes. But moving forward from there, I find his work stiff and his facial expressions lacking the warmth they once had.<br /><br />In contrast, John Buscema was at the height of his powers in the late 1960's, and as I said -- following this "introduction" with the Heck-drawn conclusion was a bit of a downer. I'd add that the outstanding Buscema cover of Avengers Annual #2 only heightened the disappointment.<br /><br />So in answer to your query, if indeed it was a slam (which it was not), it was necessary to show a) my opinion, and b) the contrast that <i>I feel</i> exists at this point in time between John Buscema and Don Heck.<br /><br />I hope that helps you.<br /><br />DougDoughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04248324005584963229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8220285230636101823.post-62045582026374507592013-05-28T09:50:18.430-04:002013-05-28T09:50:18.430-04:00Poor Don Heck. Was that slam necessary?Poor Don Heck. Was that slam necessary?Doc Savagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08783244633195233970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8220285230636101823.post-57957547308938177322013-05-27T14:54:20.330-04:002013-05-27T14:54:20.330-04:00One of my first "old" Avengers comics, a...One of my first "old" Avengers comics, and still one of the best. I always felt it was a shame that the "conclusion" to this story, in Avengers King-Size Special #2, was drawn by the rapidly-declining Don Heck. Quite a contrast after this JB masterpiece!<br /><br />DougDoughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04248324005584963229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8220285230636101823.post-10616348573322432902013-05-27T10:42:30.283-04:002013-05-27T10:42:30.283-04:00Yep. An early course in Brit Lit for me when I was...Yep. An early course in Brit Lit for me when I was an early Roy fan. <br /><br />Rip OffRip Jaggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09936426877024852134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8220285230636101823.post-37530638887834553432013-05-27T10:41:53.837-04:002013-05-27T10:41:53.837-04:00You clearly saw the post before I altered it to be...You clearly saw the post before I altered it to be all Donne. But the point is still valid. Bucky alive is less interesting to the core of Cap than Bucky dead. It might make a pretty good movie though. <br /><br />Rip OffRip Jaggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09936426877024852134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8220285230636101823.post-52424769577320532422013-05-27T10:28:28.129-04:002013-05-27T10:28:28.129-04:00Ah yes, Roy Thomas including poetry in his already...Ah yes, Roy Thomas including poetry in his already wordy comics... one of his hallmarks. Rave on, John Donne.Doc Savagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08783244633195233970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8220285230636101823.post-65589344315289269702013-05-27T07:04:11.340-04:002013-05-27T07:04:11.340-04:00Excellent post! Bucky should have stayed dead, th...Excellent post! Bucky should have stayed dead, the Winter Soldier story should have been a "What If?"<br /><br />I also have to agree about Roy Thomas, a master of the comic book medium, who I feel is harshly treated nowadays as being too concerned with retcons.Simaylhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01861115402841654930noreply@blogger.com