tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8220285230636101823.post24791273415588787..comments2024-03-28T09:04:42.135-04:00Comments on Rip Jagger's Dojo: Batman Odyssey!Rip Jaggerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09936426877024852134noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8220285230636101823.post-44448721645872390672015-11-11T22:44:58.745-05:002015-11-11T22:44:58.745-05:00I read that and I must add that to me I fell that ...I read that and I must add that to me I fell that the computer color coloring was really ugly. They used the computer to add in so much it spoils that great Adams art. I prefer when we could just have those vibrant hand added colours.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8220285230636101823.post-11154329357923803912013-10-21T03:57:15.213-04:002013-10-21T03:57:15.213-04:00I agree with most of what you say. The dinosaurs a...I agree with most of what you say. The dinosaurs are a hoot and are the reason I bought it finally. <br /><br />But there is something off in the tone of the storytelling which doesn't track. Like I said, when I start to think of it as a updated 50's Batman story, it begins to work more for me. Those didn't often make sense either. <br /><br />For all their virtues these artists are seem utterly convinced that the artwork will override any problems with the writing. Like Kirby before him, Adams is so damn good at what he does that he boldly thinks he can do it all. Evidence suggests that's not totally the case, despite my ardor for the work of both men. Kirby's excesses developed into a strange voice that was entertaining on its own in some ways. Adams hasn't refined it to that point. <br /><br />Rip OffRip Jaggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09936426877024852134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8220285230636101823.post-48338740588156735192013-10-21T03:52:15.706-04:002013-10-21T03:52:15.706-04:00Neal has always done that, and that's cool if ...Neal has always done that, and that's cool if he wants to. But it doesn't make the story easier to read. If the conversation is should he have given Batman that personality, then we can chat, but there's no denying the storytelling is difficult to parse. <br /><br />Rip OffRip Jaggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09936426877024852134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8220285230636101823.post-8419027944121584282013-10-21T03:50:44.684-04:002013-10-21T03:50:44.684-04:00I can imagine. I got lost and I had the whole stor...I can imagine. I got lost and I had the whole story in hand. <br /><br />Rip OffRip Jaggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09936426877024852134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8220285230636101823.post-25935728634860607912013-10-21T00:11:02.562-04:002013-10-21T00:11:02.562-04:00I have to say I enjoyed Odyssey thoroughly. It ca...I have to say I enjoyed Odyssey thoroughly. It came along at a time when it seemed all the other superhero titles were deeply ashamed of being comic books, and really desperately wanted to be gritty urban crime dramas or thinly veiled political commentary. By contrast Odyssey felt like Adams wanted to remind everyone that comic books can have dinosaurs and pterodactyls and subterranean worlds and monsters and assassin cults and all kinds of mad crazy stuff. Every other DC title seemed timid by comparison. I can respect a bold experiment; caution and timidity isn't going to get my money.<br /><br />One thing that stopped the book finding wider acceptance is that Adams wrote it in what was intended to be a hyper-naturalistic stream-of-consciousness style of dialogue. It seemed like he was trying to faithfully capture the conversation as he heard it in his head, to convey the rhythms of real speech. It didn't work. If there were a good editor Adams respected and would defer to, a huge chunk of verbiage and the more idiosyncratic tics could have been removed, and the underlying story would have been exposed as an old school cliffhanger adventure serial. I was saying this right from the first issue. When Adams had Dick Giordano as an editor, his writing was much tighter; if only there had been someone to take that role here.Richardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01714171897239398438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8220285230636101823.post-40119151970836367582013-10-20T06:37:11.164-04:002013-10-20T06:37:11.164-04:00Neal blows off any and all criticism and defends t...Neal blows off any and all criticism and defends the whole thing in the next issue of COMIC BOOK CREATOR, due out next month. Bookstevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09797445163866512849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8220285230636101823.post-57985323966422712582013-10-20T04:02:18.638-04:002013-10-20T04:02:18.638-04:00I read it monthly and found it impossible to follo...I read it monthly and found it impossible to follow. Didn't like the use of guns either.Simaylhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01861115402841654930noreply@blogger.com